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The Five Steps Every Creator Needs to Master

May 27, 2025
This week on The Creator Spotlight Podcast, Francis is joined by Hayley Rose, a former Google and YouTube employee turned YouTube growth strategist. Hayely has worked with some of the biggest channels on YouTube, growing them from zero views to hundreds of millions. In this podcast Hayley breaks down the five steps that every creator should follow to get more views, grow on YouTube and build a sustainable career in the creator economy. __ Hayley LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hayleyleighrose YTJobs: https://ytjobs.co/talent/profile/257289 The Upload Club Website: https://www.theuploadclub.com/ Newsletter: https://theuploadclub.beehiiv.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theuploadclub __ Timestamps 00:00:00 Introducing Hayley Rose 00:03:00 The three services of The Upload Club 00:05:44 The actual purpose of a thumbnail — it’s not what you think 00:08:05 YouTube's most important metrics to focus on 00:12:20 The five steps every creator must know 00:15:22 Step 1: The Idea 00:19:14 Step 2: Pre-production 00:25:22 Step 3: Shoot day