The Five Steps Every Creator Needs to Master
May 27, 2025
This week on The Creator Spotlight Podcast, Francis is joined by Hayley Rose, a former Google and YouTube employee turned YouTube growth strategist. Hayely has worked with some of the biggest channels on YouTube, growing them from zero views to hundreds of millions. In this podcast Hayley breaks down the five steps that every creator should follow to get more views, grow on YouTube and build a sustainable career in the creator economy.
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Hayley
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hayleyleighrose
YTJobs: https://ytjobs.co/talent/profile/257289
The Upload Club
Website: https://www.theuploadclub.com/
Newsletter: https://theuploadclub.beehiiv.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theuploadclub
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Introducing Hayley Rose
00:03:00 The three services of The Upload Club
00:05:44 The actual purpose of a thumbnail — it’s not what you think
00:08:05 YouTube's most important metrics to focus on
00:12:20 The five steps every creator must know
00:15:22 Step 1: The Idea
00:19:14 Step 2: Pre-production
00:25:22 Step 3: Shoot day
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